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on the table hits the big three really hard. but feel good about the fact that tonight john boehner was having pizza with the tea partiers. the folks that say they won't sign on to anything. congressman kucinich calls the plan a raw deal. he's here and he's fired up tonight. this is the ed show, let's get to work. >> all of the candidates are going to have to demonstrate they can do all of the job all of the time. >> tim pawlenty is taking cheap shops at a republican front-runner. tonight i'm going to defend michele bachmann. >> i'm not going to allow anyone to take a pufrmg at me. >> alan west refuses to apologize for his sexist remarks. today he says she owes him an apology. where's the outrage? >>> if you thought the defense of news corp. was odd, wait until you hear bill o'reilly's stance. >>> the president first tried to sell his plan to nancy pelosi and harry reid. and then the obstructionists came over to the white house. boehner and mk skon el. they have to convince members of their party to accept over a trillion dollars in revenue increases in order to take this zeal. don't hold your
about taxes and possible cuts to the big three. >>> and in wisconsin, we have a result in the state's first recall election since the scott walker union busting law was passed. the democrat, dave hansen, has defeated the republican challenger, another major victory for workers rights in wisconsin and in america. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> we now have a bipartisan group of senators who agree with that balanced approach. and we've got the american people who agree with that balanced approach. >> the gang of six plan rides again. bernie sanders gives the plan a huge thumb's down. he's here tonight. rupert murdoch plays dumb in front of parliament. >> i don't know. >> reminds me of a scene from the godfather. >> i don't know nothing about that. >> we have more on the news corp. dog and pony show. and the election results everyone is waiting for out of wisconsin. we will talk to the first member of the wisconsin 14 to face a recall election. >>> good evening, americans, thanks for joining us tonight. with less than two weeks before the united states defaults on its obli
her 80-year-old husband, smacking the attacker in the head. big jab. we'll have more on the man behind the pie all later in the show. by the way, in about an hour from now, the uk prime minister david minister, he's expected to speak in front of parliament hoping to stop further damage to the government from this scandal. so to get some of the latest on the investigation and a preview of what will happen in today's speech, martin flesher joins us live from london. there is an emergency session of parliament today, this has brought david cameron back into the country to be able to speak before the people there. what do we expect to hear? >> that's right, today's highlight, every day brings some dramatic development. today the star there will be david cameron. he actually called for the emergency session. he cut short a trip to africa to try to take control of this. he'll face a grilling, though. the key questions will be very significant questions for him. why did he hire a former news of the world editor despite warnings, how much did he know about the phone hacking investigation, when
more on that later. but we begin with the big fight in washington growing more desperate as the august 2nd deadline to raise the debt ceiling approaches. the key question this morning will we to see any progress this weekend? we go live to the white house for more. are they working this weekend and might we expect more progress here? >> reporter: we'll to see. there's a lot of closed door negotiations. that's the phase we're in now. we're a day closer to what many experts have called a financial catastrophe, six closed door meetings that they had in the west wing. the focus turns to congress. whether or not they can reach a deal on a dramatically scaled back version, not that grand bargain, something smaller but do it in time for august 2nd when the country is due to run out of cash. taking his case public for the second time in a week, president obama accused republicans of refusing to compromise. >> the problem is members of congress are dug in ideologically into various positions because they boxed themselves in with previous statements. >> reporter: with the clock ticking towards w
republicans in this fight than grover norquist. he's here to dish on the debt and deal in taxes. and big money, big problems? mitt romney's campaign is debt free, but where is all that money coming from? we'll tell you why it could add up to a little bit of trouble for the republican front-runner. good morning, it's monday, july 18th, 2011. i'm chuck todd. just 15 days until default day. let's get right to my first reads of the morning. it's a week of public spectacle and private wrangling. efforts to get a big debt deal done has failed. >> when you look in the past at agreements between divided government, it's taken leadership on both sides. it took reagan and o'neil. it took clinton and gingrich. the president is out there. he's willing to do it. he said it in the state of the union, he said it in the budget. the question is, do we have a partner to work with? and i hope the answer to that is yes. >> this week we'll see a two-track process. publicly, leaders will get a few votes out of the way to allow conservatives to get on the record on a balanced budget amendment and set the table that
guys to protect the fat guys and corporate jets and big super rich. you're expendable now, crack thinkers. don't you understand? they play you against the poor and you're skpentable now. let those guys handle it. they got to protect the big guys. >> now know, that is coming from john mccain whose campaign might be compared to custard, except custer's came out better than mccain's did. in 2012 a conservative will be elected so i think that will speak for itself. his his brand was she lacks in 2007 within 2008. mine won the house of representative by record numbers in 2010. >> yeah, but now your brand of conservative is told, get your butts in line. don't get too big for yourself. because you've done your job. you're saving the corporate jet guys. you're closing in making sure to protect the loops holes. now just shut up and let us handle it, we've got movies it watch. thank you judson phillips. thank you for being here with me. >> thank you for having me. >> hosts of the bill press show on sirius radio, gentlemen, it is quite interesting, looks like mr. boehner is trying to get a
fitsity still. there's no legislative language. it looks like what could be a pretty big tax increase. the spending cuts i think are highly uncertain. it instructs the various committees of the senate and the house to come up with these spending cuts. we have no assurance that they will do that. we have no idea how they'll do that. then we asked the senate to vote on that. all of which suggests to me there are a number of ways in which this could fall apart. i give these guys all the credit in the world for really struggling and trying to make some progress on a tough issue. there's no assurance that it results in an outcome. if we can't agree on spending cuts now, why should we suppose at the end of this process which after all has been available to us for two years the senate won't even pass a budget, why we think that this will result in real spending cuts is not clear to me. >> the other dynamic here is the mcconnell-reid proposal. that is going to get to the floor at some point. now the idea of being that the gang of six proposal is too late to be scored by cbo to really be put i
company is too big to know the details of each business. there can be more tough questions ahead. the british prime minister david cameron has called a judiciary inquiry. they could be summoned for that. and some u.s. lawmakers want their own hearing on capitol hill. stephanie gosk, nbc news, london. >>> lawmakers finally appear to be making bipartisan progress in those ongoing divide over what to do about the debt limit. for the latest, we go to tracie potts in washington for us. good morning. >> reporter: lynn, good morning. just a glimmer of hope this morning from the so-called gang of six. three democrats and republicans who have been working together on a compromise. the plan on the table would cut $4 trillion from the deficit, lower taxes, but also bring in a trillion dollars in new revenues by closing tax loopholes. both sides seem to like it at least as a first step. president obama calling this a very significant step in line with what he's been working on at the white house. republicans saying it has good elements. they want to take a very close look at this. that after
of different ways. by the way, this is no big secret, it's not like i'm telling you something other people can't figure out very easily. but if you have one phone call another phone it creates a busy line. if you use a third phone to call in, it goes directly to the voice mail and if you don't have a pin, it's very easy to get somebody's voice mail. >> we talked about at&t. how vulnerable are they to getting hacked and do we need to make pin numbers mandatory in order to keep all of our phones safe? >> i think that's something to think about. right now the onus is on the consumer, it's on us to be proactive with our mobile devices to put that pin on there. you think of your smartphone these days. it's really like a small laptop. in my face it's almost as big as a laptop. but you store so much personal information on there that really the companies should be doing more for users, i would say, because they're such an extension of ourselves. because there's such critical information on there. you know, i don't want to single out at&t too much because all of the wireless carriers are aware that th
witt. first off for you this hour the big fight in washington over spending and the debt limit. as that august 2nd deadline to raise the debt ceiling grows closer. we go to the white house for more. >> reporter: good morning, richard. it's a day closer to what the president and many outside experts are calling a financial catastrophe and hope for a big deal, the so-called grand bargain appears to be all but lost. the action turns to congress and whether they can pass a scaled down version of debt reduction before the country runs out of cash. taking his case public for the second time in a week, president obama accused republicans of refusing to compromise. >> the problem is members of congress are dug in ideologically into various positions because they boxed themselves in with previous statements. >> reporter: with the clock ticking towards what the president described as are a ma fw -- armageddon, he's hoping a deal could still be struck. >> but we got to get started now. that's why i'm expecting some answers from all the congressional leaders sometime in the next calm of da
're still fighting that fight? >> look, the big grand bargain is still on the table. that deal is there if the speaker wants to return to the table and negotiate it. we came very close. the president and the speaker did. and that opportunity still exists. secondly, the helpful proposal senator reid put out does not include up front the tough issues of entitlement reform or tax reform, it creates a committee that would look at those issues on a fast-track basis by the end of the year. that's not possible, we prefer one that does it all at once. however this turns out if we don't get the tough issues addressed because they're essential to address the deficits and long-term debt we're going to return to the debate. because the public supports a balanced approach. it's not the right way to do this if we don't ask sacrifice from everybody. not just one sector or a limited number of sectors from the society. >> let's listen to what the president said last night, to voice support for a bipartisan deal. let's listen. >> the american people may have voted for divided government, but the
news this morning. a big arrest in the ongoing brit hacking scandal. one of the people closest to the head of newscorp taken in by police. >>> and countdown to a deal. new reports that the president and congressional leaders may meet today to try to hammer out a debt ceiling agreement. will this go down to the wire? good morning, everyone. i'm richard lui in for alex witt. welcome to "msnbc sunday." top of the hour four, after nearly three years behind bars casey anthony is a free woman this morning. the 25-year-old was released from jail in orlando just after midnight eastern time 12 days after she was acquitted of murder in the death of her 2-year-old daughter caylee. outside the jail hundreds gathering carrying signs and protests of support -- or support, rather, of anthony. inside, one nbc news photojournalist was in the processing room when casey was released. he describes what happened. take a listen. >> she was just tunnel vision to the door. and that's when i think i saw that, you know, that smile or relief, if you will, because she saw freedom and she saw the exit door
people on board. it looks like right now they're headed in the right direction toward a big plan, exactly what the president wanted. lynn? >> brian, thanks so much. well, last night on "chris matthews," chris asked gang of six senators, mark warner what sets their deficit reduction plan apart from other proposals put forth by republicans? >> this is the first time we've seen a bipartisan plan that includes revenues, that, it really is comprehensive, it's bipartisan. it isn't perfect. but when the alternative is we're going to drive this country over the cliff, i think we've got to start with something that actually gets the job done, that gives us that comprehensive approach, and the fact that we had a whole lot of democrats and republicans yesterday saying, yeah, i'm ready to at least move to the next step, was a good sign. we've got to realize we're 13 days away from a default. we're 13 days away from an indirect tax increase with every american where their interest rates skyrocket and the government can't pay its bills. we've got to be responsible and get something done. if we can buil
, but if a shrunken version of the boehner big does -- or if they go to an emergency extension, the president will be right back in the same predicament he's in right now. i think a lot of people are upset. they blame the republicans more than the democrats for the gamesmanship, but the fact is the republicans have also backed the president into a corner, even if they're doing it in a way that's not popular. >> i want you to analyze these two possibilities, one the president could give away more of the store, more spending cuts, maybe enough to get us thus this increase. which would make the redhots happy. no tax increase at all. the other possibility is to marry what boehner wants right now with what mcconned was talking about next year, where next year it can be are can be raised by the president, only the house would have to come back with a two thirds veto, so it seems there is a possibility for compromise, but the easiest thing is for the president to throw the whole bomb game, say, you win this year, not next year. >> i don't think he can do >> i don't think he can do that, chris. when
>>> two big developing stories. gone to parts unknown, casey anthony, the florida woman acquitted of murder free from custody just after midnight today. we'll hear about the scene outside of the jail and talk to someone who was inside when anthony left. plus, where might she be right now? >>> the other developing story, countdown to a deal. new reports that the president and congressional leaders may meet today to try to hammer out a debt ceiling agreement. will that happen soon or go down the wire? good morning, i'm richard lui. alex witt is off today. welcome to msnbc sunday. topping our hour we'll start with casey anthony. after nearly three years behind bars she's a free woman this morning. the 25-year-old was released from jail just after midnight eastern time 12 days after she was acquitted of murder in the death of her daughter. outside of the jail hundreds gathered, carrying signs of protest or support of anthony. inside one nbc photo news journalist was in the procession room when casey was released. he described what happened. >> she was just total vision through the doo
going on behind the scenes, no big meetings today, the president in his weekly address today laid out the stakes and again called for share sacrifice and that means in the white house, you're raising taxes on the wealthy. >> the truth is, you can't solve our deficit without cutting spending, but you also can't solve it without asking the wealthiest americans to may their fair share or without taking on loopholes that give special interests and big corporations tax breaks that middle class americans don't get. >> reporter: now those taxes that the president are talking about, a nonstarter with republicans, that is a sticking point. that is the impasse, the hurdle that they simply cannot clear. in the meantime, republicans are moving ahead in congress with a balanced budget amendment to the constitution. it is very much a long shot. they're moving ahead, here's orrin hatch explaining why. >> the only reason this administration doesn't want a constitutional amendment is because they want to keep spending the american people's money. and the only reason congressional democrats would refus
rchts good wepz, everybody. i'm contessa brewer covering the big news coast to coast. the big story right now the phone hacking scandal in great britain reaches the highest echelons of government. with prime minister david cameron facing cheers and jeers in an uncommon emergency session of the house of commons. >> i have an old fashioned view about innocent until proven guilty. >> prime minister david cameron addressing the house of commons. >> if it turns out andy coulson knew about the hacking at the news of the world he will not only have lied to me, but he would have lied to the police, to a select committee torque the press complaints commission, and of course, perjured himself in a court of law. >> former news of the world ed tore andy coulson was until january cameron's communications director. >> with 20/20 hindsight and all that has followed i would not have offered him the job and i expect that he wouldn't have taken it. >> coulson was arrested this month suspected of corruption in the u.s. voice mail hacking and police bribery scandal. >> you live and you learn and believ
're going to start with the big event in washington growing more desperate as the august 2nd deadline to raise the debt ceiling approaches. the key question will we see any progress this weekend. this as president obama warns that failure to take action could lead to serious financial fallout. >> we don't need a constitutional amendment to do our jobs. the constitution already tells us to do our jobs. we don't need more studies. we don't need more a balanced budget amendment. we simply need to make these tough choices and be willing to take on our bases. >> the republicans say they have a new long-term fix. a new amendment to the u.s. constitution. let's go straight to aaron mcpike. an issue of what is at stake today. a reporter with real clear pricks. what is this budget amendment? before we get to that, i want to show people what is at stake in terms of the numbers. $23 billion in social security payments. that's a payment that's on the united states' credit card bill. $87 billion that's another number that's being watched. august 15th also will come due $30 billion in interest paym
in charge say regardless of the substance of the proposal, it's too big. there is no time to get something this big done before the august 2nd deadline. it literally cannot be passed through the senate in time even if everybody likes it. the other rainbow/sunshine problem here is the president and the senate agreeing on this or anything doesn't get you further towards raising the debt ceiling, it's not just the president and the senate, it's crazy town down the hallway too, it's john boehner's republican house, that likes the idea of the nation defaulting, that thinks the explosion of the economy might be pretty or at least warm for a second. they are not looking for a good deal or achieve particular policy objectives, regardless of what they get, they are not going to vote to raise the debt ceiling. the republicans who are running for president from the house of representatives, for example, are not saying don't raise the debt ceiling unless, don't raise the debt ceiling until, they are saying don't raise the debt ceiling at all. let's see what happens. this is how republican congresswoma
the two minnesotans continues. tim pawlenty went after michele bachmann. >> there's a big difference in talking about things and getting them done. >> this is the third day in a row where we have seen tim pawlenty heat up in his rhetoric against michele bachmann. it's clearly trying to set up the two of them as they go mono on mono for this straw poll. what is interesting, there was a republican debate before the straw poll that takes place in iowa. so instead of everyone going after mitt romney, it's clear that there's going to be a little mini debate going on. all of that in the shadow of what is going on with rick perry and chris christie showing up. lots to go through. we're going to get to that later in the show. let's get to the big story. there's one week left to raise the debt ceiling. two sides feel like they are farther apart than ever. serving on the budget committee, senator, let's start with what is on the table. can you support harry reid's plan as it stands right now in the united states senate? >> no. but i don't think that we're that far apart, chuck. if you take the
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to our financial markets. >> that is a big statement. house democratic leadership team coming out saying that. the house has rejected the 14th amendment solution. but we're still six days out. for leaders like mr. clyburn to go down that road gives the president some pretty good cover and a pretty good idea. the president doesn't want to overreach, but his base would love it. it's going to wipe out any discretionary cuts that would hurt low and fixed income americans. get your cell phones out, i want to know what you think. should the president invoke the 14th amendment to resolve the debt crisis? text a for yes, b for no to 622639 and can you always go to our new blog at ed.msnbc.com. >>> joining us now is donna edwards ofç maryland. she's a member of the progressive caucus. congressman elliott engle, jared nabler are holding a press conference to urge president obama to use the 14th amendment as a backup option. would you join those folks tomorrow? what do you think about the 14th amendment option right now? the white house has said repeatedly no, but the game could change. what do y
to agree on something balanced as long as it's big. in the house r there are republicans ideologically opposed to anything that increases revenue. now all the government deficit projections are based on the idea bush tax cuts expire for everyone, according to current statute, the end of next year. if you regard not only any change in the law that reduces the deficit as unacceptable but any failure to change the law is also unacceptable, then it's going to be very hard to pass anything through the house other than perhaps the mcconnell plan, without the savings in it. >> we're hearing from harry reid using the phrase, "time is of the essence," hearing that over and over again and taking us to the brink. do you get the feeling we are actually inching any closer to clenching a deal? >> i think the mcconnell proposal, with some savings we can all agree to, may very well end up being the package. it's very important to the president we have a 3.5, 4$4.5 trillion package. woe may not in this short time agree to more than a $5 million down payment and vague creation of commission goals, state
to other states and has been trying in a very big way of spreading the gospel of making it harder to vote all across the country. not just in kansas, but everywhere. earlier this week chris coback wrote urging politicians in other states to do what he and sam brownback have done in kansas, the case republicans broadly make for the urgent need for these new make it harder to vote laws is that voter fraud is wide spread across the country and a real threat. as evidence, there were 221 incidents of voter fraud reported in kansas between 1997 and 2010. seven of which yielded convictions. that's the evidence. 13 years, 7 convictions. convictions? detailed in a report from mr. coback's office in kansas. they consist of the following. one instance of electioneering, so campaigning too close to a polling place and six incidents of double voting, people voting in kansas or another state or two different counties in kansas. again, the seven convictions that are evidence to make voting harder is one case of electioneering and six cases of double voting. here's the thing, whether or not those seven c
that she could catch fire. look, when you start this thing, when you win iowa, if you win iowa big, that thing starts rolling through new hampshire and south carolina, it's over in weeks. i agree 100%. >> how was she going in philadelphia suburbs? how is she going to do in the i-4 corridor and in wisconsin? how is she going to do in new mexico, arizona? i would suggest, with swing voters not well at all. >> there's no doubt if you nominate michele bachmann, it's an enormous risk. the only conditions, i think, under which i believe she could win the presidency, if people say, if they did in 1980, i don't care, i'm taking a chance with this guy because what we got we can't stand, you get 9% or 10% unemployment, two more years, this country is ready for a lot of change. more "morning joe" in a moment. with the hotels.com 48-hour sale, the possibilities are endless. interesting... save up to 50% this tuesday and wednesday only. hotels.com. be smart. book smart.  finally, there's a choice for my patients with an irregular heartbeat called atrial fibrillation, or afib, that's not cause
house back to the table, back to talking about something big. now, look, we still got a long ways to go. it's a weekend of sales jobs going on right now that actually began last night when the president had the congressional democratic leadership over to start talking turkey. so that brings us to the other sticking point, the actual substance. everybody has to figure out what to cut. this isn't going to be as easy as folks think and both sides are moving toward a deal that would include a trigger to assure mutually destructive politically when it comes to the two big items being kicked to committees or joint committees and that's still being figured out, tax and entitlements. one incentive plan would kill bush tax cuts for the rich and key portions of the new health care law if somehow the reforms for the tax code and social security and medicare weren't agreed to and implemented by january 1st, 2013. the question is, is the penalty on the bush tax cuts sort of the idea that you're kicking this down, is that going to be enough to assuage some democrats who believe there's too many cuts
in the senate, even as house republicans double down on symbolic spending cuts. the big breakthrough coming from the newly resurrected gang of six, a plan to reduce deficits by nearly $4 trillion in the coming decade. president obama championed the plan tuesday, and it emerged with the support of 49 senators on both sides of the aisle. house republicans, on the other hand, spent all day tuesday debating, and last night passing a cut, cap and balance, ccb proposal, that has little or no chance of surviving in the senate. senator chuck schumer described it today as dead on arrival and faces the promise of a veto if it were to reach the president, and despite digging in their heels against new ref gnaw and in favor of more spending cuts tea party walsh had a hard time explaining what cuts were in the house bill. >> why doesn't it name the cuts? >> it calls for $111 billion in cuts, chris. >> where? >> in the bill. >> you've criticized the president for not having a plan and you don't have one. >> all right. we're joined now by nbc's luke russert who covers capitol hill and nbc's mick viqueira at th
're paying lip service, richard, at a very minimum, asking for that big deal, that grand bargain that we've heard so much about, and the president says he's still pressing for it. his omb director, budget director jack lew, had something to say about that this morning as well. >> he wants the largest deal possible. he wants to do the most we can to reduce the deficit. that would be the right thing to do for the american people. he made it clear he's willing to go into areas that he's not in the past been comfortable going into. i think that one can see a path to getting well over a trillion on things that we should be able to agree to. >> so richard, we're essentially in a holding pattern here. what's playing out are politics within each conference and caucus on capitol hill between republicans and democrats, between house and senate. republicans for their part this week are going to push forward an amendment to the constitution requiring a balanced budget. they say this is what's needed. even if it were to be ratified, which is considered a long shot, obviously it would do nothing in th
the battle on a short term debt ceiling because we can't put together a big one in one week's time. and you noticed the president had no statement in there, "i will veto a short-term debt ceiling." what happened to that? >> he didn't have that. i was wondering if you would allow if you ear in the president's position or advisor, you advised many presidents before. would you not tell him to stand up to his opponents? >> i would not tell the president of the united states to veto a short term debt ceiling. if, as a result, i'm going to throw my country into default over what? the president is willing to accept a clean debt ceiling with nothing. now boehner is going to give a debt ceiling with $1 trillion in cuts. why would he reject the good because it's not the best? >> my advice -- i think, pat, we've had this discussion on the show. pat and i sparred a bit in the last two weeks. i think pat, unfortunately, for the democrats standpoint is right. i don't mean you're right. you're more right this morning than wrong. if the president has to accept a short term plan which is looking more and mo
bachmann's job performance. >>> and rush limbaugh, hot air. hits a new high. his latest attack on big government is our con job of the day. >>> welcome to the show, i'm al sharpton. tonight's lead, are we closer to a deal or disaster? president obama and house speaker john boehner may be nearing a deal for a new grand bargain on debt limit. the president is meeting with democrats right now at the white house. presumably to talk about the deal. but any agreement would have to get past the tea party republicans in the house. and democrats say, they have a problem. >> the loudest shrillest voices from the republican party are not leaders but tea party extremists. >> they group of ideal ogs have grabbed the reigns and refuse to let go. it is the group who alone wants to drive the car off the cliff. >> but now, even boehner is saying republicans must compromise. >> i believe congress must act before august 2nd and i hope we are prepared to do that. at the end of the day, we have v a responsibility to act. >>> if the united states of america's debt rating gets downgraded, every interest rat
mean, it ain't $4.7 trillion. you know how big this is? this is bigger than the health care bill and the stimulus package two times over. this is the largest can cut that's ever been proposed by any president in the history of the united states. and boehner turned it down. now, you tell me, do you think they really want to do a deal? now, this ship has left the harbor. but at a time, this is where the president was ready to go. and to visualize that and what it means to the american people is amazing. and what does boehner do? he comes back on national television and says that it's president obama who is creating the crisis atmosphere. >> obviously, i expect that bill can and will pass the senate and be sent to the president for a signature. and if the president signs it, the crisis atmosphere that he has created will simply disappear. >> let's see. i've never written one of these before. four -- how do you do that? do you just put a point there or do you do that? i've never written one this big. four point seven trillion and zero dollars, right? they turned that down. nancy pelo
the possibility of doing something bigger. >> look, here's where things stand. there are three different big deals out there. number one is what the president and speaker boehner and eric cantor are negotiating, which is, yes, a big deal that is separate from anything the gang of six in the senate is working on. and then of course there's mcconnell-reid. one thing that's going on in the last 24 to 48 hours, is any deal that's mcconnell-reid that includes this idea of sort of the disapproval vote, giving the president more power to raise the debt ceiling, that thing has grown to the point of almost being toxic with some house republicans. in fact, they hate it so much, they may prefer to negotiate with the president directly. but for the white house, getting the 217 means making a deal acceptable to at least some of those houses with 87 new members. the man who's made himself their standard bearer, majority leader eric cantor put it this way. >> one-third of the republican conference and one-quarter of the entire house of representatives are freshmen, they're new. many of them have never served in
as long as it's part of a big deal. yesterday, he called democratic leaders and later, republicans to the white house for more talks. gop leaders called those meetings productive. then there's the renewed gang of six plan, which offers a blueprint for a deal. >> devil is in the details. >> it doesn't have the stamp now of the committees on the house and senate side and that is going to be essential. >> but it has problems, too. some liberal members worry about its impact on social security and medicare, and the closed door meetings that led to the plan. >> we are an anti-gang group. we are trying to suppress the growth of gangs. we think that it is not healthy for washington. >> the negotiations could go down to the wire, with the nation's spending power hanging in the balance. >> it isn't perfect but when the alternative is we're going to drive this country over the cliff, i think we got to start with something that actually gets the job done. >> the one thing we've been committed to is getting a solution. >> mike, where do we stand? >> reporter: we're 14 days out. i just got an e
the bigger the government, the smaller the people. and right now, we've got a government so big and so expensive it's sapping the drive out of our people. and keeping our economy from running at full capacity. the solution to this crisis is not complicated. if you're spending more money than you're taking in, you need to spend less of it. >> the speaker also accused president obama of standing in the way of a bipartisan agreement. reiterating his claim that the house plan is the best option to cut the deficit. >> before we even pass the bill in the house, the president said he would veto it. i want you to know i made a sincere effort to work with the president. to identify a path forward that would implement the principles of cut, cap and balance, in a manner that could secure bipartisan support and be signed into law. and i'll tell you, gave it my all. unfortunately, the president would not take yes for an answer. even when we thought we might be close to an agreement, the president's demands changed. >> and the speaker called the plan put forth wi majority leader, harry reid, quote f
this will not be effecting anyone in the southeast u.s. let's get back to the heat wave because this is the big story of the week. historic heat wave. last week we had a heat wave for a couple weeks but this one will last all week. we have excessive heat warning in st. louis from now until friday. that's unheard of to go that long. huge ridge of high pressure will expand and head to the eastern seaboard where it's going to get uncomfortable as we head to the end of the week into the upcoming weekend. the dangerous heat right now, if you're elderly, the children, you know, day after day, anyone without air conditioning, is going to be in the orangish color. we're used to the heat in the dallas area. it's been 10 0 degrees now 16 days in a row. but you only have heat at vizryes to your north. it's where the humidity is very high. heat indexes will be in the dangerous level from minneapolis, all of iowa, kansas city, omaha, st. louis. how hot will it be? kansas city around 9, same for you in st. louis. when you add in oppressive humidity, it's not your typical humidity. ipts much more humid than it shou
. but there are two big things. most damaging of all, he was pressed several times on whether he had had any conversations with all of his various contacts and friends at rupert murdoch's company in the u.k. about a $12 billion attempt to buy out the reminder of bskyb, the big broadcaster over there. this was a deal that the british government has quasi-judicial authority to approve or deny. all he could say is he had no inappropriate conversations. he kept using that phrase. frankly, it didn't sound like the members of parliament really bought that line. the second thing, a really explosive claim, that someone in the senior government, a senior government official had been hacked and bugged while andy coulson was there. these kinds of allegations are -- they just keep cropping up every day and it doesn't look like this kind of statement or investigations are going to end any time soon. >> yeah, we could be early in the game at the moment. michael, i want to play some sound from yesterday's testimony, what we heard there in parliament. take a listen to this first. >> i don't know. i am now a
. all the drugs you just mentioned. >> most people would say hey, look, it's marijuana, what's the big deal? >> it's more potent now than ever. the days of the former arguments about it being a mild drug that everybody uses, those days are over. >> he says controlled conditions and sophiscated growing techniques have made marijuana tronger and therefore more dangerous. the government considers it a gateway to more serious drugs and spends millions of dollars a year on marijuana law enforcement. pro marijuana groups argue in the cases of more potent pot users adjust their intake and smoke less. they say there's no evidence that marijuana leads to harder drugs. as for the government's war on marijuana, they say it's expensive and has had little effect on the millions of users. >> a a drug war raging in our national parks and forests. >> kept thinking if i turn my back, i'm going to get a bullet in the back of my head. it's salonpas. this is the relief i've been looking for. salonpas has 2 powerful pain fighting ingredients that work for up to 12 hours. and my pharmacist told me it's the
even though their plan is not as big as they wanted it to be, but a short time ago senate majority leader harry reid warned that the bill will be rejected in short order. >> as soon as the house completes the vote tonight or this afternoon, the senate will move to take up that message that they sent to us. it will be defeated. they know that. >> so, no word as of yet from the president today on the standoff. earlier today, press secretary jay carney said that any bill would have to absolutely extend the debt ceiling until 2013, and nbc's kristen welker joins me from the white house. also in the press briefing, jay carney said that the bill being worked on right now is d.o.a. when it reaches the senate. >> yes, that is right. hello, thomas. good afternoon to you. he said it is d.o.a. and 58 senators have said they will come out to vote against it and he reiterated the call that the white house is not going to get behind anything that is not a long-term increase of the debt ceiling. but you know, people have been pushing this on this saying that past presidents have increased the deb
care a lot about. they have basically yielded to republicans on a big conceptual point. linking, lifting the debt ceiling to spending cuts and -- >> two things republicans still want. a dollar for dollar cut in spending to match a debt ceiling increase and a trigger mechanism for a balanced budget amendment. holding out ideologically. speaker boehner when asked about the reid plan earlier. let's listen. >> i believe that the plan is full of gimmicks. we're not making any real changes in the spending structure of our government, and it doesn't deal with the biggest drivers of our deficit and our debt, and that would be entitlement programs. >> the republicans-- >> they're not touching that either. putting it to the side now. >> how can he say that, then? >> they have forgotten the number one rule of hostagetaking. when the other sides gives into your demands you let the hostage go. i don't think they're interested in doing that. at least 100 members on the house republican side want to blow up the economy because they think they will save the economy. >> and they're certainly wil
believes that the boehner problem is anything more than a big, wet kiss to the right wing. i mean the tea party. that's what i mean. it's too bad the caucus is run by so little people. >> when i asked the plan, the aids pointed to a speech. congress can't vote on a speech. a veto threat won't prevent default. >> we are urging the republicans to step back, put their party caucuses aside, put their pledges to grover norquist aside and put this country first. >> it's unfair from the president of the united states to lead from behind. it's unfair for the president of the united states not to come forward with a specific plan that, perhaps to be considered by both bodies, but only to go out and give lectures. >> we are not going to hold this country hostage to the tea party. those folks over there, about 80 of them, they pledged to grover norquist. i want to pledge allegiance to the united states of america. that's what we should be doing. >> good morning. it is thursday, july 28th. look at the beautiful shot of new york city. welcome to "morning joe." yes, with us on set -- >> look at him. >>
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